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Gentlemen,
The Steam forums are for sharing. The person who owns the information decides what they wish to share, and when. If this is not enough information for you, PLEASE take your conversation private ( preferably email ), and spare the rest of us from needing to decide whom is in the right.
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
In an email I rec'd this morning.
Subject: Steam Cars for sale
Message: Dear Sir,
it may interest you to know that we have for sale two interesting steam cars at our forthcoming auction at Brooklands in the UK on Saturday 9th March. I\'m sure your members may be interested particularly as one of these cars is offered at \'no reserve\'. The cars may be found at www.historics.co.uk details htt
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
Click on the link at the bottom of the "broken image graphic" to see the photo.
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
Security issues.
We get many attempts to log in using common usernames and random passwords.
We get hundreds of attempted spam registrations some days. We are also visited by robots that scrape the content of the forums, which uses bandwidth. Other scrapers are looking for email addresses. Some visitors are looking to deface the site.
Passwords are too short.
.. Please change your passw
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Scott Finegan
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Announcements
Repeatedly needing to log in:
Checking the forum logs, it appears some users need to log in every time they come to the forum. Unless this is the way you want it, logging in is usually good for weeks to months for me, unless I specifically log out, or delete cookies.
Anyone that gets tired of needing to log in every time they come to the forum can PM me and we can work out a solution.
First
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Scott Finegan
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Miscellaneous Technical
Users who have never posted a message, and haven't logged into the forum for about six months will be deactivated.
Users that have posted messages, but haven't logged in in 600 days may be deactivated.
Contact me at the email listed in the top post if you wish to have your login reactivated.
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Scott Finegan
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Miscellaneous Technical
Hi Greg,
Send Karl Petersen a PM to find out how it is being handled, I am out of the loop on this.
Best,
Scott
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
Hi Greg,
Nice to hear from you.
Old thread or new, real world experience trumps theory, and adds to our knowledge, so your report is much appreciated.
Any reports on the performance of the Barrett subsystems are welcome, if, and as, you find time. Hint!
Scott
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
The club was given Cyclone stock for specific use, which I believe was covered in one of the Bulletins several years ago, possibly less. This makes the club a stockholder. For any other details about the stock contact Tom Kimmel.
SACA has not invested in any project(s).
Meanwhile the Admins here do not wish to get involved in hearsay, or denigration by innuendo, it isn't productive.
Sco
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
Scotty,
Ask Harry your question.
Those that know the answer probably signed a non-disclosure agreement, and can't say.
In the interest of full disclosure, The Steam Automobile Club of America has a horse in the race.
Any speculation in public on these Forums by those that don't know may be subject to deletion, censoring, editing, or whatever you wish to call it.
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
2012 Auction Catalog.pdf
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
I probably will not get back to this until after the steam meet. If I forget, please remind me.
I seem to be over committed at the moment, trying to get a presentation for the meet together, and a bunch of other things club related.
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
Sorry,
I updated the file again, right after I updated it. ( forgot to turn protection on).
What do you want added?
Or, update the file to what you want, send it to me, or upload it.
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
Keith,
I created the hp required spreadsheet in a hurry for this topic.
My intention.
Inputs
Enter the flow in cfm required by the fuel flow, the pressure needed to overcome boiler internal resistance, and the efficiency coefficient.
Outputs:
Hp needed to accomplish the work.
For a given hp, show the watts required.
For the watts indicated, show the current at the stated voltages.
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
Andy,
Attached is a spreadsheet calculator for fan/blower hp required, and a photo set up showing what you get with about 52 watts of power at the cfm flow shown in the ebay ad. I gave the blower the benefit of the doubt and let the coefficient of efficiency (motor input and blower) be 100%.
*Spreadsheet updated (08/24/2012) with description of how it is used.
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
Here is a screen shot from a spreadsheet calculator I am working on. It has not been verified by anyone yet to make sure I have not missed missed something obvious. Fuel weight and air : fuel ratios have a range if you check sources on the net. The numbers I used show in the photo, with the exception of divide by 60 (min).
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
Andy,
(used 745 watts per. hp.)
For a given blower, if you double the hp you can get twice the volume, or get twice the pressure, not both. The blowers I show are between 60 & 80 % efficient.
First the claim is 3psi, this = 83.1 inches of water (27.7" per psi) at 435 cfm using 56 watts.
More facts, the Garret turbos all need to turn 30,000 to 175,000 rpm, efficiency in the 6
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
Andy,
>> That turbo blower does 435CFM @ 12 volts,4.6 amps, 3PSI << = to 56 watts
There are two products and shown below that deliver 300+ cfm @ 3" water.
They require in the neighborhood of 1/2 hp to do so. = 373 watts Turbos are not 6 times as efficient as centrifugal, or vaneaxial
http://www.rotron.com/product-search.aspx Search Maxiax product family for graphs o
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
Andy,
Without a graph of pressure and flow showing amp draw, the numbers provided are not enough to decide if this is a good blower for a particular burner.
Buyer beware!
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
Jay would listen, talk, or offer advice if asked. With many interests (steam, wind, aviation), he would put his money behind what he believed in. Jay was the founder of the SACA time trials, with monetary awards.
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
Offered by Allen Blazick
The following Stanleys are being offered for sale.
Restored:
1912 Model 88 30hp 12 passenger Mountain Wagon. One of only 4 original wooden framed Mountain Wagons left in existence. One of only 49 built. The car is now geared 38 to 60 for better touring. Brand new Bourdon boiler installed July 2012.
1909 Model E2 10hp roadster
1918 Model 735 7 passenger 20hp
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
How does that compare to the GE patent for the engine that Tom K. has?
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
The post has been hidden, not by me.
Perhaps Ken or Karl will weigh in on whether they did it, and why.
Scott
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Scott Finegan
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Miscellaneous Technical
Jim,
There is a reason for limiting the size of attachments, "Backups". All photos, pdfs, doc files, etc. are stored in the database along with the messages. During the approximately one year I allowed larger file sizes, the Phorum backup doubled in size. The Phorum backup, even compressed is > 360MB and takes about an hour to download.
The majority of the photos, and documents
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
Nice looking Likamobile, thank you for sharing your experience with the engines.
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
Oooo, from good looking, to great looking in about three weeks. Beautiful!
I notice a horn and a multi chime whistle. Which sound do you prefer?
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
Update 3: Files were updated again. 12:00 CST Feb. 10.
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
For those that don't read from the starter post.
Update 2: Files were updated again. 12:00 CST Jan. 25.
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
I located the digital version of Vol. 13, No. 3 Copies of the photos and caption...
MIDDLE
Bill Ryan's Super Kart, followed by John Wetz's Tractor and Tricycle. In the background Bill's four cylinder bump valve, a converted outboard, running on steam provided by John's solid fuel boiler.
LEFT
As happens all too frequently at meets, the equipment gets broken. The blower assisted solid fue
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
After several hours of looking, I was unable to locate the original photos, or the original Bulletin source files scans. While I am sure I have the scans, they may be on the 386's hard drive, or backup tapes. The hardware for accessing is problematic.
The scan of the Bulletin is at home. I will try to get it to you tonight, after snow cleanup.
Attached are two files from Berrien Springs 2009.
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Scott Finegan
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SteamStuff
