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Re: George Eli Whitney 1900 Ida F. engine and boiler restoration - 6 days ago
Maybe the man made dead aren’t to be resurrected. Rollyby Rolly - Steamboats
Re: George Eli Whitney 1900 Ida F. engine and boiler restoration - 6 days ago
Tom you have a nice collection of photos. This last photo looks like the first steaming after George rebuilt her in 1954, it also has an added pressure gauge from the photo I posted. Was the boiler and engine ever installed in another boat after the rebuilding from the fire? Rollyby Rolly - Steamboats
Re: George Eli Whitney 1900 Ida F. engine and boiler restoration - 9 days ago
Tom your right, but in either case it’s still George’s work. He was a legend of his time. Evan with steam cars. Rollyby Rolly - Steamboats
Re: Stanley Winker - 12 days ago
You might try making your own blackening oil, when I do gunstock work fitting wood the metal action, I mix lamp black with oil to find the high spots on the wood. Lamp black or black graphite added to oil (Molybdenum disulfide) Makes a real black mess if your not careful. Lamp Black https://www.naturalpigments.com/lamp-black-pigment.html Rollyby Rolly - SteamStuff
Re: Stanley Winker - 12 days ago
Well as I see it you have two options, you can use a pressure gage and watch the needle bounce back and forth, or go modern and use a pressure switch to light an LED for a blinker. Rollyby Rolly - SteamStuff
Re: Stanley Winker - 13 days ago
Right on Pat Some of the guys in SACA-NE have tried dye’s, I am not sure about their success. I have been looking for my original piping drawing for the 1910, I don’t believe it used a Winker, the EX and cars prier to 1910 did not. You could use a pressure gauge, I’m not sure how long one would last. I use no winker on my EX just my ears hearing the engine run can tell, and there is always a drby Rolly - SteamStuff
Re: George Eli Whitney 1900 Ida F. engine and boiler restoration - 15 days ago
There is also a photo of the boiler and engine in the book Steamboats and Modern steam Launches page 9 November-December 1961. It’s wood lagged with all the pluming and fire door on the boiler. Rollyby Rolly - Steamboats
Re: Reasonable Water Range, Condensing vs non-Condensing - 20 days ago
Yes as far as I know he is still using a rout type blower on the exhaust steam before the condenser to drive a fan on the condenser. Nice system Rollyby Rolly - SteamStuff
Re: Reasonable Water Range, Condensing vs non-Condensing - 20 days ago
The question is two vague. There are 10 HP and 20 HP non condensing engines. It also depends on the condition of the engines. I have a 10 HP car I never checked the total range but I did come close to running out of water on one tour. I believe it was a little over 50 miles but a lot of hills. Up state NY. David Nergaard claims he did 178 miles on one tank of water with his piston valve engiby Rolly - SteamStuff
Ancient Keel splice - 25 days ago
Ancient Keel splice Looking through my computer files One that got my eye years ago was an Ancient Keel splice 100 BC on a 400-ton merchant ship depicted in Wooden boat magazine. What was interesting about this splice was that it was used on a 400-ton merchant ship sunk of the cost of France 100 years BC. The ship was 131 feet long and had two of these splices in the keel, and two keels oby Rolly - Steamboats
Re: Anyone recognize? - 6 weeks ago
The base casting of this engine reminded me of a three cylinder compound engine I designed thirty years ago. I never built the engine; it took me two years to figure out how to build the core boxes and patterns. Big learning curve for me at that time. Attached is the drawings of the one piece cylinder block. Rollyby Rolly - SteamStuff
Re: Anyone recognize? - 6 weeks ago
Real nice looking workmanship. Unfinished, Looks English. Rollyby Rolly - SteamStuff
Re: Gardner-Serpollett - 7 weeks ago
I have never seen a Person and Cox Steam bike. However there is one at the Owls Head museum in Main. Henry Person and Percy Cox were Apprentices at the General Engine and Boiler Co in 1912. that tells me the coiles were made from seamless boiler tubing as that was the standard for all boilers at the time. Dimensions for tubing are listed in Chas A Strellinger & Co Catalog of 1895. If a bby Rolly - SteamStuff
Re: Stanley engine disassembly - 7 weeks ago
Jeff I have never done that job, but as editor of SACA-NE newsletter for the first ten years several members have. If my memory servers me it takes at least a 50 ton press and sometimes more. I was trying to find a photo of a press setup with two hydraulic jacks one on each side of the main ram required for one job slightly bending the bottom rail. Rollyby Rolly - SteamStuff
Re: Presented Without Comment - 7 weeks ago
One thing I forgot to mention, it must be age related. A-106 seamless pipe is also ASME approved pipe for boiler construction. A-178 is tube sized, A-106 is pipe size pipe. I built two S stamped boiler with A-106 pipe. Rolly ASTM A106-89 / ASME SA106 Seamless Carbon Steel Pipe for High Temperature Service (ASTM A 106-89 / ASME SA 106 /ASTMA106-89/ASMESA106) This standard is issued unby Rolly - SteamStuff
Re: Presented Without Comment - 8 weeks ago
Maybe this is a place to re publish the pipe tube and steal used in boiler construction. As published by the ASME Common Boiler Tube Specifications ASME Spec. ASME Grade ERW or Smls. Description Typical uses SA-178 A ERW Low carbon steel - C=0.18 max. Boiler tubes, economizers, low temp. superheaters SA-178 C ERW Medium carbon steel - C=0.35 max. Boiler tubes, economizers, lowby Rolly - SteamStuff
Re: Presented Without Comment - 8 weeks ago
Use of stainless steel Look up the proprieties of stainless steel. You will find that stainless steels need oxygen to remain corrosion free. Deny stainless oxygen and it will corrode The only use in a boiler for stainless is in a supper heater coil, and using the right alloy hear is also important. 316L is about all I can afford but Tp-347H is what is mostly used today in power plant deby Rolly - SteamStuff
Re: Presented Without Comment - 2 months ago
Thanks Ken I missed that link. If the four cylinder single acting engine shown is what he is using they have way two much blow buy, can’t keep oil in the crankcase. Crag Standbridge SACA-NE had one in a small pickup. I believe he sold the engine from the SACA Bulletin years ago, or it was advertised there. I am not on face book Rolly https://www.reliablesteam.com/new/engines.pby Rolly - SteamStuff
Re: Presented Without Comment - 2 months ago
Ken I’m not sure witch Reliable steam engine your referring to. If it’s there impulse turbine I did not spend any time looking at it. I’ve had several turbines, single and two stage that I have removed from power plants, they use a lot of steam. I’m not in favor of single acting engines. Although the one Chuck used did very well. I always wondered how much blow by it had. I think the Scrolby Rolly - SteamStuff
Re: Presented Without Comment - 2 months ago
In the past I have advocated looking into the scroll compressor to be used in reverse as an expander. Now the industry is starting to build them large enough to make it possible. Maybe using two? Copeland: 30-hp Scroll Compressor The new Copeland Scroll 30-horsepower compressor (ZR380) delivers 380,000 Btuh and is said to be the world's largest scroll compressor for use in commercial applicatioby Rolly - SteamStuff
Re: Gentleman Speedy Roadster Build - 2 months ago
This is a bronze casting for the gears on the EX rear end. A friend of mine now dead made some of them. Gears available from Boston gear. Somewhere on my old hard drive I have the numbered gears. You need to pick the one that matched the engine gear. Looks like you need axel gears, they will have to match differential three gears. The gears are Browning YSB10B15-40 for the stars and Browningby Rolly - SteamStuff
Re: Gentleman Speedy Roadster Build - 2 months ago
After you Sandblast it clean and prime it weight till you finish the car. The banjo frame and chassis of the car will get the most abuse from road use. Find a good paint that you can also get in a spray can for touchup. The yellow undercarriage of my Stanley is a John Deer tractor yellow that matched the yellow of an original Stanley hub after wet sanding by a computer matching machine. It aby Rolly - SteamStuff
Re: Perkins steam gun - 3 months ago
Not everyone ran out and applied for a patent at the time or for that mater today. Knowing what was patented at the time leaves one to wonder how and what was available for someone to accomplish achievements much grater then existed. Hence a stretch of the imagination. What foundries, iron works and material were available to work with? At that time in history in Taunton Mass bog iron was dby Rolly - SteamStuff
Re: NEW YORK PUBLIC LIBRARY STEAMBOATS - 3 months ago
Hart nautical museums at MIT is not like other museums, there is not a lot to just walk in and see. The collection is mostly plans and photos of work done by many marine engineering companies over the years. Mostly warehousing thousands of ship and engine drawings. They just don’t let anyone go through the plan room. I know Bill and he would give me two girls with cotton gloves to open the planby Rolly - Steamboats
Re: Perkins steam gun - 3 months ago
Jacob Perkins, was able to generate pressures of up to about 2,000 psi in the 1820s This is kind of a stretch of the imagination considering pipe was not made until In 1824 James Russell, an Englishman, invented a process for the welding of tubes, (wrought iron) Whitehouse invention (1830), now 1835 the first furnace in the United States for making wrought iron pipe was built by Morris, Taskeby Rolly - SteamStuff
New England Wireless and Steam Museum - 3 months ago
i got this E-Mail today Rolly Dear Friends, I know it's been some time since you've heard from us, and a long year for us all. I hope you are all doing well and feeling optimistic about the season ahead. All signs are pointing to a brighter year this year than last. We do have some exciting news to share in the coming weeks. Museum volunteers haven't been idle through the last year anby Rolly - SteamStuff
Re: NEW YORK PUBLIC LIBRARY STEAMBOATS - 3 months ago
Nice boats Rick I love the old paddle steamers I have a large print of the Mary Powell on my living room wall. Also one of the few prints of the Herreshoff 100 foot Permelia as well, as far as I know only available the Hart nautical museum at MIT. Herreshoff Stiletto torpedo boat, ran circles around the Mary Powell on the Hudson River http://www.herreshoff.info/Menu/index.htm?/Docs/P00by Rolly - Steamboats
Re: General Electric steamers - 3 months ago
I have seen this once before, can’t remember where. I did not under stand the theory behind the design, Raytheon years ago did a study on heat transfer when they needed to cool radar tubes. Heat radiates in all directions at the same speed as light. Hot gases flow two ways, in laminar flow and turbulent flow. Turbulent flow of gases tend to wrap the gases around a object, tube layout deterby Rolly - SteamStuff
Re: General Electric steamers - 3 months ago
Skinner Unaflow Will give you a good idea of great economy of the unaflow engine. Rollyby Rolly - SteamStuff
Re: Promoting Steamboat Safety in Antebellum America - 4 months ago
One safety requirement that most Steam boaters today are unaware of and as well as Coast Guard inspectors are unaware of are the Navy rules regarding boiler laws concerning fire doors on solid fuel boilers in boats. The Navy adopted the requirement in 1915 for solid fuel fired Steam boilers that fire doors must open in. This was a requirement to prevent the fire from blowing out into the launchby Rolly - Steamboats