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Re: White Paper - 4 years ago
Hi Bill I would like to see new stuff. I always get a kick out of the show that Rolly goes to each year. There are some folks hear experimenting an doing some fine work , at least learning. I espesialy like the four stroke engine by Jeremy Holmes. If I can help any one I will, liminated to some things that are confidential. We hope someone will come out with a new breakthrough and we cby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: White Paper - 4 years ago
Hi Bill We have posted several. It is a regular on How IT'S Made on the History Channel. Just look up cyclone power and there is a lot of U-tube footage. Look at the web site Cyclone Power .com. And there is even the first one cylinder and the mk2 engine that was run at SACA. The engine was in Popular Science and other publications. Those people were here and saw. Harryby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: White Paper - 4 years ago
Ken ,Jim Nice paper, however I do object to some misinformation about Cyclone. It is not and never was an automobile company. It is an R&D company and is doing research into the Rankin cycle engine. What you are writing a paper about we did experiments on years ago and pretty well know what works and not works, not just opinion. We have run engines for thousands of hours and have three dyby HLS - SteamStuff
Jim Moden - 4 years ago
I am sorry to say with the passing of Jim Moden a library closed. He was one of the smartest persons I had the pleasure of working with. He was the guru of batteries for the Navy for submersibles. He has several patents And was the inventor of Moden Fuel. It was originally developed for torpedoes for a safer alternative. Torpedoes are for shallow depth operation and there was a need for UUV'sby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine - 4 years ago
Hi Jeremy I always liked what you are doing along with a few others...good luck but remember the pioneers get the arrows.by HLS - SteamStuff
Re: Chuk Williams Accident at Bonneville, may be hurt - 5 years ago
We all at Cyclone wish Chuk a speedy recovery. .We are all steam fans here. It is OK to break machines but not people.. I calculated Chuk at 147mph used 74 hp so according to his dyno., 80hp it appears he might have been able to go faster. The preveious post said the track was mushy and this could lead to a higher rolling resistance than the car's 22# on hard ground. All the best recoveryby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: Engineering a Steam Engine for Automotive Use. A top down approach. - 6 years ago
Hi Ernie That is the beauty of a good steam engine, as it can start from full stop to full speed without a transmission. However,it has to have the proper variable valve duration so as to varie the torque demand. Proper rear end ratio for acceleration and enough RPM from the engine to give it enough top speed. This is the power band that the older type engines did not have as the PRM on theby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: Team Steam USA - 6 years ago
Hi Kat Been very busy and did not have time to post. I only know that we are making a lot of headway. There will be some new stuff comming up on the Team Steam site shortly. I will however always try to answer a question. Thanks Harryby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: IC Engine Conversion for Kart Project - 6 years ago
HI Bill I realy like your project. I might be able to help a little. Use 304 stainless steel for your seat and silicone nitride for the ball. This can be purchased from Mcmaster Carr. The hole for the ball should be 88% of the ball diameter for a perfect seal. Smaller than this and it won't seal well, larger and the ball could stick. A bump valve engine has to operate at very low cuttoff, aboby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: Team Steam USA - 6 years ago
Hi Guys Sorry for the misplaced post...I get up and down a lot..probably running a WHE engine. But you got it. Harryby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: Team Steam USA - 6 years ago
Hi George, We have no fittings inside of the combustion chamber. They will unscrew in a fire.Our tubing is one piece from the cylinder coil to the head of the engine. We operate at up to 1350f without any burn out problems. Of course you have to use the right tubing in the superheat section. We have another new sponsor Zip Sensors they do a superior job as we need a fast response time fromby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: Team Steam USA - 6 years ago
Hi Heavy I still do not know where you are coming from. I will say it again. That is all the information that we will release into the public. We have a lot more dyno data on the LSR engine but only a bonified sponsor will see it. I did not question your steam knowledge, would never ask you to do anything blind, neither would I. Again, who are you? Harryby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: Team Steam USA - 6 years ago
HI Heavy There is more than one dyno run. The rpm is of course is lower when we are running at full 35% cutoff. We had a very high torque of 1015 ft lbs at this starting cutoff. We do not have a steam chest and read the temperature and pressure on each cylinder. The temperature and on this engine is always above 1200f. It is designed to run at 3200 psi and some times we might very this a littlby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: Team Steam USA - 6 years ago
Hi Heavy I can only speak for ourselves. That is a true Dyno number. This is the engine on the dyno. Harryby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: Team Steam USA - 6 years ago
HI Heavy That is from the dyno printout not just a claim. It has been released in other venues. We are a public company and canot release things of that nature that are not true. If you would like to see all the sheets and data a significent sponsorship is in order, then you can peek. The high torque is at full cuttoff 35% . The HP was well over 100. I under stand that there could be three otby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: Team Steam USA - 6 years ago
"Hi Clint Come on down the weather is great. Just returned from the show. The car went over extremely well. It was really neat how Marla and Nelson new so many people in the business and are so well respected. The Mickey Thompson sponsors (tires) had a group there and there were very pleased. Rain Magic sponsors and others were there. We are still looking for others for sponsorships. Iby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: Team Steam USA - 6 years ago
Hi Heavy So would I, as it is still under construction and it is cool. Only the Stanleys. Crank, and the Brits have done anything so far. Jim can tell you how long it took, and the Brits took about ten years. We started this car only a year ago, and it is all new from the body to the chassis to a scratch built engine, even the gear box. This package had to be totally enginered not just tossed tby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: Team Steam USA - 6 years ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNrmxHN0Wic Nelson explaning the LSR car! These things seem to pop up everyware. Harryby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: Engineering a Steam Engine for Automotive Use. A top down approach. - 6 years ago
Hi Andy That is close. We do it a little closer. Using each gear, belt, and tire. Then we actually towed the vehicle. What happens is the force is a constant and the hp is increased with the rpm. We have an alternate system design that we can reduce the RR by as much as 30%. The rolling resistance is largest at low speed, as the speed increases WR becomes a much larger number. I have all of tby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: Engineering a Steam Engine for Automotive Use. A top down approach. - 6 years ago
Correct Andy Only you did not complete the formula for wind rersistance. It is V<2 X .004 = psfoot. For a car or a boat there are other factors such as the rolling resistance or in the case of a boat the drive train and the hull type resistance that have to be added. I have used it many times over the years and it works. This formula dies at the speed of sound as at that speed it is = 14by HLS - SteamStuff
Re: Engineering a Steam Engine for Automotive Use. A top down approach. - 6 years ago
Hi Andy We also use this but a real run has to run a lot of hours not until the computer crashes.... been there done that. When I have time I will make a list of the hundreds of parts that have to be designed made and tested. It starts with making a fire ..heat. The engine is the easy part. Harryby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: Engineering a Steam Engine for Automotive Use. A top down approach. - 6 years ago
HI Guys I seldom post unless asked a question, however the issue of the chemistry of and engine is seldom discussed. What I like about a theoretical cartoon engine is it always works. We have tested and tested so many systems and materials to make an engine work. Then all the testing for durability has to be done that takes time. To build something that will run around the block just to workby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: Engineering a Steam Engine for Automotive Use. A top down approach. - 6 years ago
Hi Jim I agree with you on a steam engine compared to an IC engine as they are dependent on RPM to get there power with a lot of gear changes. What I love about a good steam car is the a total variable cutoff from 35% to 5% with no gear change. It matters not how fast you go by rpm as it is Rev Per Mile. It is the same no mater the speed. The duty cycle of an IC is only about 10% . It is lby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: Engineering a Steam Engine for Automotive Use. A top down approach. - 6 years ago
Hi Jim, It is piston speed that counts. The MK5 top is only 3600rpm not a screamer by IC standards and it is smooth as an electric motor. Check out the U-tube runs. Only the tac showed the rpm as there is no exaust noise no chuga chuga. Only a combustion deep throated hum. Harryby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: Engineering a Steam Engine for Automotive Use. A top down approach. - 6 years ago
Hi Jim I do not think there is a total understanding of a power band. The older steam cars were not that smooth as there was a high torque pulse between piston strokes. Only the inertia of the car and the wheels would help this. The MK 5 is designed to operate easily at a top rpm of 3600 rpm it can easily go to 5000 rpm and has. But this is at full throttle with a 2/1 ratio the car would go ovby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: Team Steam USA - 6 years ago
Hi Jeremy, Good to hear from you. As you know I always liked your corn burner as I think it has some real possibilities and would like to work with it. Only have two hands and 7 days a week, so later. There is an air preheaters on the combustion air. I am sorry I was not clear on that. This engine package has been under development for a while and some things change slightly from testinby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: Team Steam USA - 6 years ago
Condencing on the MK5 occours around the cylinder. we had to remove part of this feature from the LSR car as there was almost no steam comming from the stack and the lube water return to the tank was over heating . This was corrected long ago but it proved how effective this type of condencing works. The bottom of the engine we call the condencer but it cools down the water for the condencingby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: Team Steam USA - 6 years ago
HI Kelly Sorry about the way I wrote "getting out engines". Sounded like a production line. That is not what we do. We are developing modern steam technology and testing protype engines that will go to licenced manufactures. Harryby HLS - SteamStuff
Re: Team Steam USA - 6 years ago
Hi Scotty The boat engine was run a while ago but was put aside to do the LSR project. The boat engine can be seen running on U-Tube. We still have the other LSR targets to run this year the only firm date is Bonneville in August for the car. These projects are fun and very use full in research and marketing but we have our day jobs in getting out engines. The boat was originaly sponsored by aby HLS - SteamStuff