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Re: Infrared Burner for LSR Boiler - Yesterday
#1 Burner - Low Flow IR Today, going to Harbor Freight to buy an exhaust ex pander and exhaust crimp er to make the De Laval Nozzle. I'm using this nozzle here also to increase the pressure to the IR portion on this burner. As one can see that a standard bear making burner uses the same converging - diverging nozzle...for the same reason. Note that this fabrication technique will be empby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Infrared Burner for LSR Boiler - Yesterday
More on the #2 Burner, Attached is the concept, not to scale, for the high flow burner with an emitter. This concept is like the foundry burner. Note that this uses the high temperature water in the separator tube from the bottom. The intent is for the water to go to steam instantly. With this prediction and use of the De Laval Nozzle, the planned result is a super high speed convective floby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Steam powered trike test with “fireless” boiler - Yesterday
Hi Jamison, Answer is a grease gun top... nice use of items around the shop. How does it pump the crank case oil through the separator? Definitely a winner for an engine! I really like it! Perhaps make a smaller Water - Oil separator to fit the envelope on the trike. I would estimate an effective unit at 1/4 the height. See attached picture of Jerry Oliver's bike separator. It is in theby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Infrared Burner for LSR Boiler - 5 days ago
Just a little bit of information for burner No. 2 - high flow with a IR emitter. The design application is attached. One thing to add on how to achieve the high flow nozzle is to use the water in the bottom of the separator tube. The idea is not new for steam locomotives have used this from the early days to work with heavy fuel oils and to atomize out of a nozzle. This would be a foray into aby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Infrared Burner for LSR Boiler - 5 days ago
Thanks Rolly, Very useful information. The IR burner pictured above is on my side burner on my grill. It must use regulated fuel pressure/flow. Remind me some time to tell the Bacon cooking story. To begin: There would be two types of burners, 1) is a low flow, radiant and 2) a high flow with radiation via an emitter along with convection. This part is focusing on number 1. I happened toby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Infrared Burner for LSR Boiler - 6 days ago
The IR burner I'm working on is for this concept. I would classify it as a low flow burner and without convective heat conduction. In other words just radiant heat transfer.by Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Steam powered trike test with “fireless” boiler - 6 days ago
Hi Jamison, Very nice progress! I'm curious as to what is the engine? I enjoy your videos also. Kind regards, Rickby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Infrared Burner for LSR Boiler - 7 days ago
Hello, I'm starting a new thread on an Infrared (IR) Burner. If you would like some history on some of the LSR boiler design ideas, please refer to Steve's thread on "Force Circulation Boiler". In that thread and performing some simulation using an excel file I created, it is apparent that one needs a lot of heat (BTU) to make the boiler needed for the Land Speed Record (LSR). The baby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Force circulation steam generator design - 25 days ago
OK Gentlemen, After hearing your thoughts, I would like to make a simple clarification in purpose for a separator tube. A quick aside is that my earlier change of terminology from "Separator Drum" to "Separator Tube" is because of your recommendation to the us guys thinking about the LSR record attempt. Ken, this was your comment. Also some terminology is to replace a monby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Force circulation steam generator design - 26 days ago
Hi Guys, Thanks for your input. During the last meet and observing and dissecting Jerry Oliver's bike, I discovered that his mono-tube goes into a separator drum. He described it as the means to eliminate scale from going into the engine. It functioned like a cyclone and acted as a steam separator along with being a particle separator. I asked him if this fills up with water and chokes the engby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Force circulation steam generator design - 27 days ago
Hi Ken, Another query if I may...have you any knowledge of a system that does not use a throttle valve? The feed pump and burner would control the steam to the expandor. Also, your feedback along with others on the proposed system is welcome. This would be a Non condensing System - Feed pump communicating with the expandor to - Flow control valve like the Richard Smith version to - Feedby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Force circulation steam generator design - 28 days ago
Hi Ken, You truly are hitting on all cylinders. I must give you credit for the IR cylindrical burner shown within the Ofeldt Coils in the design above. When I posted in another thread about building the perfect boiler, you made this imaginative concept. I actually think it a good idea. At least it is something worth a trial build. While giving out credits, Tom Kimmel gets the credit on theby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Force circulation steam generator design - 28 days ago
The design posted recently will incorporate this tube fill concept. This has been posted before. Posted again to keep the thread uniform.The calculations incorporate this concept as stated when specified as Fill. What really is important is less is more.by Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: 20th year on the web for SACA - 28 days ago
Hi Scott, Thank you for all you do with the Forum! It is just right for me, an antiquated old fart. I still have a few years to kick around with so I'll keep on posting. Kind regards, Rickby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Force circulation steam generator design - 28 days ago
Attached is what I would build to prove out the calculations in the previously attached message. This is a scale-able design and would increase the coils proportionally with another Ofeldt-IR burner nest and make the Gryzyb Coil oval.by Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Lubricator - 4 weeks ago
Most Mason Engines just have one steam input to the chest. Not sure what you're thinking but I would not recommend any other penetrations to the steam chest. I'm confident that if you add lubrication to the steam line, it will work pretty well. However, if you are going crazy with super heat, all bets are off. I would suggest just a single loop of super heat on your boiler to dry up the steaby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Force circulation steam generator design - 4 weeks ago
To All, I stated above the 60 - 40 ratio, well that is the ratio I started with. After playing with my excel model, I came up with the final ratio of 3 to 1, Mono-Tube to Natural Recirculating Tube respectfully. This is the ratio I would build a prototype to validate the design. Turns out that one can get the most generation per foot with a high water mass flow in a coil. However, natural cby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Force circulation steam generator design - 4 weeks ago
Thanks Ken for your input. Again my apologies for not posting for a while. I would like to continue showing some plans for a new land speed record boiler. We'll start with the calculator attached where I have taken some steps to generate enough BTU's needed for the record. Some discussions between Tim and myself reveal that the required value is 5M BTU in the steam. To put this figure inby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Force circulation steam generator design - 4 weeks ago
Hi Overmod, It sounds like you are trying to achieve a super critical (SC) boiler. I state this because of some imagine engineering to get to a super critical state with a separate super heater. This is why I might go with a separate fired super heater. Otherwise, I would just use the heat source from the basic boiler. What I think is needed to get to SC steam is the same feed pump and genby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Russian steam powered car - 4 weeks ago
Hi Jamison, Sorry for the lack of response. Yes the Russians converted that engine right according to your IC conversion methods. You think they stole it from your channel? Kind regards, Rickby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Force circulation steam generator design - 3 months ago
Hi Steve, I totally understand, life isn't so kind at times. In all this collaboration, I sincerely hope that it is enjoyable and fun to read along with try if the means is there. I too am between houses and hope to get up a good running shop to complete my Steam Dream Projects. Note that I've been trying to keep the thread going until we heard back from you. I'll admit that I've been taking sby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Force circulation steam generator design - 4 months ago
To George and All, Hope it might be interesting to share this boiler concept I'm working for the next possible LSR that some of the SACA boys are working on. The design is based on the combination of a mono-tube generator into a separator pipe that has natural circulation coils. The ratio of mono-tube to natural circulation coils is 3 to 1. Please allow me some liberty to present this concepby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Force circulation steam generator design - 4 months ago
Hi George, I think the presentation went really well. I received many anomalous responses for a good job. Thank you for asking. I was chatting with the guys who are talking about a new land speed record attempt. I volunteered to perform some boiler design and prototype work. I'm always looking for someone to bounce ideas off. I'm going to try and call you...right now as a matter of factby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Force circulation steam generator design - 5 months ago
Hi George, Thanks for the kind words. I'm at the meet with Gerry...having a blast. I'll see if we can call and chat. Kind regards, Rickby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Force circulation steam generator design - 5 months ago
Rolly and George, So nice to hear this information! George to quote you, " In engineering one always wants an idea of how it is going to perform before building it." This is my day-to-day life as Engineering Manager at the company I work for. As a spoiler to my presentation, that's exactly what the object is to build the super boiler is to predict using engineering equations and infby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Chicagoland / SACA Fall Meet - 5 months ago
OK Jamison, No admissions charge However, I formally request the first ride? I call shotgun! Kind regards, Rickby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Force circulation steam generator design - 5 months ago
Hi Ken, Thanks so much for allowing some presentation time. Attached is my steam powered scooter video...hope all can enjoy. Scooter Video Cheers, Rickby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Force circulation steam generator design - 5 months ago
Hi Rolly, I have your phone number, perhaps I'll give you a call sometime to catch up. I heard George Nutz designed a Forced Circulation Boiler or sometimes referred to as a Lamont. Any news on that? I'm pretty sure I have a good understanding of boilers. However, I'm going to test my understanding with you. - Fire Tube Boiler, basic boiler configuration on a Stanley Steamer. This is thby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Force circulation steam generator design - 5 months ago
Hi Ken, Yes, we can always strive to be more clear. My sincere attempt was to understand the mono-tube. Then to apply a mono-tube into the forced circulation circuit. I was hoping the later was implied by the Subject...oh well. On another note, it is extremely hard to explain the generating capability of a tube. This is true because water changes so much over a temperature range. One mby Rick.H - SteamStuff
Re: Force circulation steam generator design - 5 months ago
Hi Rolly, I would love to talk with you at the SACA Fall Meet? Hope you can make it! Bring George also? BTW, how is he doing? I hope to provide a presentation about mono tube generators and in concert with water level control. I will include in the presentation about the characteristics of water in a mono-tube along with understanding Reynolds Number, Nusselt Number and Prandtl Number. I'lby Rick.H - SteamStuff