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4 cycle Flash Steam Engine

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Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
October 16, 2016 08:02PM
I am now in the process of converting my high pressure low volume, to high volume low pressure afterburner. It is proving difficult to match performance of the high pressure intake system. Im thinking that I will need jets to convert the turbulent flow to laminar airflow low pressure thru the combustion stream with the low pressure system then for the burner to match performance.



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Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
October 23, 2016 01:14PM
Here are some recent pictures and this will be a pretty good example of the completed prototype.

pic a is a general look of the engine the condenser is not installed

pic b is a good look at the injector

pic d is a look down the combustion passage Im not happy with this pic because the stages are not aligned well, also the super heater has not been installed yet. Also the liquid fuel disperser is not in this pic. If you look at the first section you will see some heat exchangers. These are on a hinge can be recessed in to the huddling chambers. When the engine is in stand by mode this keeps the pressure down in the flash steam circuit. When ready to run the heat exchangers are pivot swing into the flame stream.

Pic d is a good overall view of the complete unit. You will notice the condenser is installed.


Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
October 26, 2016 04:20PM
I am frustrated with the performance of the low pressure air injection circuit. I have also determined that the combustion chamber is to small to provide sufficient heat to all stages of the combustion stream. I have developed a fix and will now try to implement it. Basically there is not sufficient btu in the current combustion chamber. as the new combustion chamber will consume 3 times as much solid fuel (shell kernel corn).

On another stage of development the injector valves are being constructed and I have enough CNC machined parts to build over 50 injector valves.

I will update pictures of the new combustion chamber.
Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
May 24, 2017 09:24PM
Ive been working on my burner I had been using high pressure low volume air injection. The problem with that is you have to use a shop air compressor.

Its a problem because you have to use shop air so it is tethered to a air compressor.

I have been working on a low pressure high volume system that uses a blower powered by a battery so Im able to get away from shop air.

Its been a difficult transition and tonight I was able get the LPHV system to work, but im still not using preheated air. Although the results were better than other attempts. Im trying to get a blower that doesn't make a lot of noise.
Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
June 06, 2017 12:06AM
working on my burner

[www.youtube.com]

I just got my mp4 converter so that I can document things now
Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
June 06, 2017 12:10AM
I have many injectors now, I can make 100 of them. Im still doing some more patent work on the solid fuel burner.

[steamautomobile.com]



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Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
June 20, 2017 09:57PM
Here's a quote from another fellow who has vistied with me and I have visited, he is very active in the steam engine community.
[modernsteampower.wordpress.com]



"Quote Tom Kimmel

Steam power is intrinsically inefficient because of the loss of heat used to boil water, to affect the phase change, because of the high latent heat of vaporization. When steam is condensed back into water, something necessary to do so it can be pumped back into the boiler to keep the process going, all of the latent heat of vaporization is lost. This is why there is a low thermodynamic efficiency intrinsic to a steam cycle. Needless to say many people have devoted much time to getting around basic laws of thermodynamics. It is not easy to do and a book can be written about the attempts. Davoud and Tinker and Jeremy Holmes have worked on re-using steam without condensing it."

I would like to make it to next meet, But im not sure work will allow it. If it does I should have an injector and a burner to bring. Also I would like to run across "Heat of Rejection" for flash steam engines.

Im building the new shop so it will be cutting close.

Jeremy Holmes
Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
June 28, 2017 07:41PM
I never quite understood why some say the latent heat is causing inefficiency. In a heat engine, heat will be rejected, that is the principle it works off of. I think it is lucidating to compare a Rankine engine to a Carnot engine. Carnot's engine is the most efficient heat engine possible, and the efficiency is (Thot-Tcold)/Thot. Since Thot for Rankine is not a single temperature, what you can do is find the average heat addition temperature. You'll find it near the boiling point. When I did that for some studied steam engines, I found them to be over 80pct of the carnot efficiency (IIRC), for hundred year old engines for example.

Almost all the complications to the basic Rankine cycle that increase its efficiency, work by increasing the average heat addition temperature. Examples are higher pressure (boiling point increases), reheat, bleed.
I think that rejecting at a single temperature like steam does in the condenser is actually superb when the heatsink has a fixed temp (not gliding), but unfortunately the volume of steam near ambient temps is too great for it to be utilized efficiently by small machinery. It is turbine territory, meaning big losses at our size and variability of steam state.
Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
July 05, 2017 08:33PM
Im really trying to make it to the meet this September. I would really be interested to campout with my tent, at Toms place. If there is a working shower and bathroom.

It will cost me several thousand dollars, so I have to make a working injector and the burner. I have a working after burner but its not optimized.

work work work.
Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
July 09, 2017 12:59AM
here are some pictures if the mosfet array. There would be no injector valves without of the solid state switching. But it is also completely digital, so from a single cam sensor/pickup. So you could advance/retard angle setting. Also you can control dwell/cut off.

But not only that, you get variable lift.


Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
July 09, 2017 08:43PM
Hi All, my biggest obstacle now is my (12volt)blower for the Hybrid convection burner. Im getting my best results so far with a 24 volt blower.

In the process of getting a special tool made, so that I can replace the motors as I burn them up.

The 12 volt mosfet array is perfected at this time. I have a bunch of parts for the L912 Injector and things are going good with that. It took about 5 years to perfect that system.

Also there is some interesting things going on with the feed pump for the heat exchanger. Just cranking over the engine by hand I can develop 5000psi
Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
July 10, 2017 12:26PM
I am updating this page on my site.

[flashsteam.com]

I will be adding new content this week

The drawings are there now also a video with the HPLV air injection.

This new content is from my patent application.
Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
August 09, 2017 05:20PM
Im looking forward to the steam meet in Barron Springs coming up. Im going take you up on the campsite for my tent, this will save some money. I bought a truck since my wife an daughter cant be without the cars they have.

Im working hard on the corn burner, and hope to have a good demonstration for the meet. I will not be heating any water, that will have to wait till next year.
Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
August 16, 2017 07:47PM
Found this today took some pictures


Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
August 19, 2017 02:34PM
Jeremy, I imagine you have covered this but given my memory I hope you don't mind answering this question. I know how your injectors work but do you have a way of adding superheat after the flash steam is injected? Thanks!
SteveW
Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
August 19, 2017 11:34PM
Hi Steve,

the engine is 4 cycle, so that to the intake stroke pulls superheated (low pressure) steam, this is then compressed and the injector opens at TDC.

I have a working theory called "heat of rejection" perhaps next year I will do a presentation. Im working hard to get a corn burner working for the meet in September. But I will not touch on the 4 cycle flash steam engine theory this year. I have to get the injectors ready and it will take all year. Speaking of next year, I may bring the whole engine system. I have an animation here [flashsteam.com]
Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
August 20, 2017 01:06AM
Thank you! Seeing it laid out like that , especially with the animation , makes it much more comprehensible. It gives pause for thought.
I wish I could be at the meet to see your burner but I expect you will do well with it.

SteveW
Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
August 28, 2017 09:16PM
I made these parts today

-a my new area to test things out

-b c d I made these parts today Im building the burner for the Meet

Im using my new welder and some of the welds could look better



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Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
August 30, 2017 12:50PM
To give the reader a better prospective here are some assembly drawings




Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
September 07, 2017 05:24PM
This is one of second generation burners. It is a true HVLP burner. The next burner in this group will be improved as the air injection will be heated. I will need to plug into a 120vac socket to power the blower. Im so glad to get away from shop air. The blower makes a lot of noise but is compact and does not need reserve/tank. It uses about the energy of a hair drier. I will fit the blower with a 12 volt motor as things progress.

Im bringing this burner to the meet, the pictures of the flame don't do it justice. The burner makes tons of BTU. You can be severely burned at 18inches of the burner exit.

One thing I would like to do is weigh the corn kernel fuel and calculate the BTU output.

Just keeping things simple this year, believe it or not, I bought a 89 Nissan pickup to attend this meeting. I got all new tires on it and did a bunch of tune up work. I cant use one of the other two cars since my wife and daughter need them.

Hoping to have a mini vacation with this. Got to get my sleeping gear ready. When I make it there I will campout. I wont arrive till very late Thursday night.+ and plan to leave Sunday morning.



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Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
September 08, 2017 04:02PM
Jeremy,

What are the inside dimensions of your burner enclosure? I will be doing a demonstration on a small boiler that will be approximately 7" wide by 14" tall, and was wondering if it would fit inside? Perhaps we could do a dual demonstration...or separately. it would give you a boiler to use for your demo and me a burner for mine. If not....not a big deal...I can bring a turkey fryer burner or similar.

Jamison
Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
September 08, 2017 05:33PM
Inside of the burner is not a good place, after the burner. Make an adapter to set your boiler on top, with a shroud..

I would like to see a picture of what you have, The burner is solid fuel, but I must warn you there's ALOT heat being produced, and cannot be fire shut down once its burning. One of my techniques is to move heat out of the burner stream.

I can make adapter, but need some more info.
Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
September 23, 2017 04:47PM
Well I made a reference to running my Economy 4 cycle engine with 2600 psi welding flux gas in another thread so I figure its best to come clean... Im running this engine from the flux welding gas after the "accident"

[www.youtube.com]

And this just some musings

[www.youtube.com]

[www.youtube.com]

update complete



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Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
September 24, 2017 08:22PM
Welll while everybody's attention..... this is some footage of the "L912 Injector", in the video its not possible for the action to be caught on video its so fast, you can hear it but not see it.

This year Im going to be working on some new injectors, I have enough parts to make 90 or so. If I build 5 that will be doing good. As a bonus the injector is patented.

L912 injector

edit- Briggs test run -edit



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Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
September 25, 2017 12:28AM
That's some amazing stuff, Jeremy....I been been checking out your website and earlier posts...very advanced approach to making steam do work! Making the steam right there where you need it...at the engine. The fact that it is all digital gives you tremendous control...and your four stroke approach is brilliant. It takes thinkers like you to make mobile steam more viable in this modern age...and out of the industrial revolution. It's also commendable that your ideas didn't get stuck in "Theoryville" and you actually built the darn thing. Some people have great ideas and talk about them for years, but never pick up a wrench to make it actually happen. The proof is in the pudding...as they say. I would love to see a vehicle powered by your system...with modern computer controls keeping things at peak performance. Even though I am more of an "old school" guy when it comes to steam...it's refreshing to see those who push the envelope and modernize steam with high tech, innovative approaches like yours.

Jamison
Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
September 26, 2017 08:22PM
Hi Jeremy,
Nice work! Your solid fuel burner really produced some heat! It was nice seeing you at the SACA meet.
Kind regards,
Rick
Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
September 26, 2017 08:56PM
Hi Rick,

Tom K once told me just show up to the SACA meet don't worry about the stage of your development your in...

Yes the corn burner made some heat. But it wasn't by any means practical, you see I was trying out a new blower and not only was a power hog running off 120vac it just didn't jive with the burner. The next opportunity I had to do a burn, the results were better using the 12 volt blower/impeller blower. (just after the meet when I got home)

I still have yet to get the new air injector ring built with the after burner.

I "so far" got the best results using shop air in the burner this was a HPLV system.

The transition to LPHV has been a rough one. and im still playing catch up since then.

This video show how well the HPLV system worked. But im catching up fast with the LPHV.

HPLV burner

I have been playing catch up but the transition is going well and expect it to surpass the old burner and with far less blower power using just a 12 volt battery that will run the burner for over 8 hours without charging..
Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
September 27, 2017 06:24PM
Im now lucky enough to have to rewire my control panel since I used phone hook up wire, it does not respond well to vibration. I now have the joyous task of replace all the wire, fun fun.

I heard from someone mentioning another user that had passed, that it was electronic and no one could follow his work. Id like to take a look at that and see if I could help.


Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
September 27, 2017 07:34PM
I've got a few miles of teflon insulated, silver tinned 18 gauge wire that is bulletproof...I used them on my tube amplifier power supplies and they are very high grade. If I had known...I would of brought a roll to the meet for you to use. Good stuff. Phone wire....not so much. Rewiring a system...I feel for you, brother...

Jamison
Re: 4 cycle Flash Steam Engine
September 27, 2017 07:48PM
Thanks Jamison...

Im replacing with stranded wire, the control panel does not get hot so I already got wire. The main thing is very flexible wire and it does not get hot.. When I get to the wiring around the engine I use a thicker gauge and that has not given me problems. But the phone hook up wire breaks connection..
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